WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



whu 1:23 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
*by* = but

whu 1:22 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
fair play bill

i don't mind him tbh

reading between the lines i don;t think he sucks up to allardyce like a lot of old skool journos and he was always a 'brown out' merchant under the surface

fickle old game

i've always wanted allardyce out by xmas time, 90% would have kept him

bill green 1:19 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
no mate you're right my point being that samuel just blows with the wind

whu 1:01 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
bill green 12:50 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
is this the same fella from earlier in the season ?

West Ham fans rightly asked to see better football at Upton Park... and they got it
A year ago, West Ham played lousy football and lost a lot of games
The supporters were unhappy with Sam Allardyce's style of play
Many criticised the fans who booed, but tickets are not cheap
It has now changed; with better football came an improved league position
West Ham are now fourth in the Premier League with five wins from nine

By Martin Samuel - Sport for the Daily Mail

isn't that just a statement of fact from that snapshot of time? no mention of him being the messiah long term?

bill green 12:50 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
is this the same fella from earlier in the season ?

West Ham fans rightly asked to see better football at Upton Park... and they got it
A year ago, West Ham played lousy football and lost a lot of games
The supporters were unhappy with Sam Allardyce's style of play
Many criticised the fans who booed, but tickets are not cheap
It has now changed; with better football came an improved league position
West Ham are now fourth in the Premier League with five wins from nine

By Martin Samuel - Sport for the Daily Mail

Sir Alf 12:50 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Cannot argue with any of that.

joey5000 12:46 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Martin Samuel is one of the only football journos I actually like and generally find his articles interesting. Hasn't he won most of the sports journalism awards in the last few years?

Of course though it is nonsense... you just have to laugh.

whu 12:44 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
easy piece but a 100% correct piece

whu 12:43 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
whufcroe 11:59 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Awful bit

He actually gets paid to write nonsense like that
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what else would allardyces biggest fucking supporter for a long time, say?

Your mum 12:34 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
This article is spot on, Sam has achieved what he was brought into do, he should be congratulated on meeting his targets, but as pointed out, he has failed to step up a level.

whufcroe 11:59 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Awful bit

He actually gets paid to write nonsense like that

Rossal 11:56 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
bill green 10:08 Wed Apr 22

Eactly why i dont want Benitez, we need a manager who can extract everything and more from a set of players, therefore no1 target is Eddie Howe

bill green 10:08 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
lazy article imo, benitez klopp etc all know that increased wage bill is the only way to improve a club's league standing, see the stats in the thread the other day, only saints are overachieving.

they're gonna ask for money that g&s haven't got and walk away.

Hammer and Pickle 10:05 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
The point being made here, and the point that should be driven home at every available opportunity, is that Allardyce is in no way a guarantee of Premier League status.

There is a media factoid going around he is, but that's all it is - a consensus opinion and it would be utter folly to rely on it next season.

Once again - Allardyce is more likely do get us relegated next season than anything else.

, 9:59 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
This article by Samuel is the best I've read because it sums up succinctly and accurately the way most of us have viewed the Allardyce Stewardship. No exaggerations, no hysteria, no sign of pre conceived dislike simply an objective analysis and conclusion.

As for the reply here by fiddle it seems to him that BFS is allowed to have good luck but there is no such thing as bad luck it's down to incompetence. That will not wash.

We all know that BFS will walk at the end of the season and we don't want him to be hanging around out of contract like CfC only to come back as we fail to land a credible replacement.

Well done Martin Samuel........a WHU supporter.

Johnson 9:47 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Infidel is spot on.

Marston Hammer 9:45 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Infidel,
I want Sam out more than anyone but that's a load of old bollocks.

peroni 9:43 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
He's been yesterday's man for years.

Sets the bar low, then underachieves.

norwich hammer 9:40 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
And still some say he is the man 😁😁😁😁

Infidel 9:37 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
He also got lucky last season.

We had that startling run in February that took everyone by surprise. We got all the luck our way in four or five games and it saved us from relegation.

Look at the two periods August-January and March-May in that season and we would have finished bottom.

That's a very different story from clubs that pick up points here and there throughout the season and stay up. Essentially Allardyce got the rub of the green for a few weeks and it saved us (and him, unfortunately).

GreenStreetPlayer 9:17 Wed Apr 22
Re: Sam Allardyce is yesterday's man... MARTIN SAMUEL
Relegation form since Christmas.
7 points from relegation last season.
Is he really a safe option as some have said?
Seems more of a gamble to keep him.

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